Correction to Sebastian’s History: The
nndl list was around way before the planning process started. It was
developed as a neighborhood discussion list for Northfield.
When the planning process got going everyone agreed to expand the use of the
list to include the other neighborhoods. The reason was simple. The
list was already there and working (quite well, thanks to Bapi’s good
work and continued diligence.) The nnadl was created to replace what we
had before we gave over nndl to
the larger community.
Don Smith
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Subject: Re: [nndl] Why so many
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looking at the big picture of NNA's lifespan:
Triangle development
Up to Me proposal-
51st St. development
each of these generated a lot of strong emotions among us- yet
through that process they brought a breathe of new life/ideas/energy
to the neighborhood & NNA- just like this new
controversy-
I don't see a big problem that has to be fixed - "too
many discussion lists" will take care of itself, since people will begin
to eliminate what they don't need & add what they do-
but I do wonder what would happen if the association were
to embrace the energy of new members who care about their
neighborhood & get some other projects going?
any thoughts out there about how to get this going?
Kate
Sebastian Wren < [at] > wrote:
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So it looks like the battle over the development is more or less over,
so now I'd like to turn to the question, "how do we stop this
foolishness from happening again."
This experience has revealed several problems to me, and with the rest
of my tenure as president of the neighborhood association, I'd like to
address some of these problems.
First things first, how many e-mail lists do we need?
It helps to know some of the history behind the lists that we have.
NLNPT -- the North Loop Planning Team is a group created by the city to
help with the creation of the neighborhood plan. (The city is still in
the process of creating these neighborhood planning teams across Austin
-- ours was among the very first ever created.) The NLNPT has active
members from several different neighborhoods -- Morningside-Ridgetop,
Northfield, and
Skyview. To be on NLNPT, you are supposed to be an
active member of the NLNPT (meaning you actually go to the meetings).
Information posted to the NLNPT discussion list is SUPPOSED to be for
planning team issues.
NNDL -- A guy I have never met named Bapi created this discussion forum
as part of the planning team activity, and he continues to maintain it
to this day. I've talked to him through e-mail, and he seems like a
very nice guy. Bapi created the NNDL as a discussion forum for people
who live in this general area - Morningside-Ridgetop, Northfield,
Skyview. Really anybody interested in this general part of Austin could
join. I have no idea how many people are on NNDL -- maybe Bapi could
answer that.
NNADL -- I'm afraid this one is my brain-child. I thought it made sense
to have a discussion list specifically for the Northfield Neighborhood
Association. I created it when I created the website NorthfieldNA.org.
The NNADL was intended to be a discussion forum that we could monitor
and control -- a discussion list for issues related specifically to the
Northfield
Neighborhood. We advertise the NNADL in the NNA newsletter,
and people can sign up through our website. I just checked, and it has
115 people on it right now.
SO -- if people think we have too many lists, then we need to decide
which one we should keep.
The NLNPT is staying -- that's not negotiable. That one is just for
active members of the planning team.
The NNDL has been very generously supported by Bapi for years, and it
has been a great forum. But it is intended for a fairly wide audience
(geographically speaking). During the "great debate" we have had in
the
past month about Koenig development, residents in Morningside-Ridgetop
have had to endure a slew of e-mail about a development that may not be
that interesting to them.
I was also a little creeped out when Jamil called me and told me that
somebody was offering to subscribe him to our discussion list so that he
could monitor what we were saying. I know that couldn't happen with the
NNADL because the only people who can subscribe him to that list are me
and the webmasters. (It turns out it doesn't really matter because he
could still monitor all of our discussions on Bapi's website if he
wanted to... Anybody in the world can check out what we're saying on
that site.)
So, if we are going to have one forum for all of our discussions, which
one will it be?
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Sebastian Wren, Ph.D.
Director
http://BalancedReading.com
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