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Hi all -
I think one thing needs to be clarified and this is an oversight on my
part in reading the draft of the NNA minutes: the NNA meeting minutes
reported that The Loop location is zoned GR - general retail - and that
Brian and Orion are needing a CS or CS-1 zoning to sell beer and wine.
I believe that Brian and Orion told us at the NNA meeting that the
location is zoned CS already, which would allow retail of wine and beer
(no consumption on the property). Brian and Orion were going to check
on that with City zoning. If CS is what they have and all they need,
they don't have to get the location rezoned.
Laura Mondino wrote:
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> I meant to say "voting to change a zoning", not "voting to change a permit"
> Sorry again for being imprecise. I do not feel in my element, when talking
> permits zoning, etc etc.
> laura
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> On Behalf Of Laura Mondino
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:02 AM
> To: 'Patrick Goetz'; 'Neighborhood Discussion List'; [at]
> Subject: Re: [NNADL] zoning changes and alcohol consumption on north loop
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> Again, thank you for the clarification. Very helpful. I feel better now,
> hearing that a liquor license is not automatic.
> And yes, you are correct, I believe the Parlor seels beer and not vodka.
> Sorry for misleading anyone.
> My intent is just to understand some of the details, and to encourage us as
> a neighborhood to become informed before voting to change a permit.
>
> Thanks to your explanations I feel much more clear now.
> laura
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [at] [mailto: [at] ]
> On Behalf Of Patrick Goetz
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: 'Neighborhood Discussion List'; [at]
> Subject: Re: [NNADL] zoning changes and alcohol consumption on north loop
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> Laura Mondino wrote:
>> In my ignorance, I have to say that itt seems to defy logic: For
>> example: if the Parlor (allowed to sell liquor) were to close and
>> (unlikely) no other alcohol-selling business started at its previous
>> location w/in 6 months, what would the permit revert to? To what it was
>> 10 years prior? Or 20 years prior? Would it become residential again?
>> (I don't think so!)
>>
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> Alcohol sales is a "conditional use" that always requires prior
> approval; i.e. even though the underlying CS zoning permits alcohol
> sales in theory, a zoning change must be requested to sell alcohol.
> Does this make sense? The zoning would just revert back to plain old CS
> with no conditional use overlay.
>
> BTW, is The Parlor allowed to sell liquor, or just beer and wine? I
> thought they only had a beer and wine license. Liquor is stuff like
> whiskey, rum, and vodka. There's a huge difference between these 2 as
> far as permitting/licensing goes. This is why I don't think there are
> any businesses in the neighborhood selling liquor. Also, for businesses
> which make more than 50% of their revenue from food sales (I think this
> applies to the Parlor), the rules are again different from a business
> which primarily sells alchohol, beer & wine, or liquor.
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