[nndl] Re: [nlnpt] Making the Case for Housing Choices and Complete Communities

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From a source that lives and works downtown in one of those high-dollar condos,
it is my understanding that a good many of the folks who live downtown actually
drive out of downtown to go to work. How funny is that?

Quoting [at] :

> Good question. I also wonder where those 10K people are going to work
> (assuming
> that they work at all). Last I looked, there isn't that much high-tech in
> downtown. And there are only so many law firms that downtown can handle -
> curious. I can tell you as a state employee (and as one who is paid, in
> state
> terms, very well) that you'll be able to count the number of state employees
> living in a condo downtown on one hand - the prices are way beyond the reach
> of
> a typical civil servant.
>
> Quoting Mary Patrick :
>
> > Excellent point, Patrick re: where are the school teachers, etc going to
> > live.
> >
> > I heard last night that Council's vision is to add more condos downtown to
> > accommodate 10,000 more people downtown. However, it's going to be a very
> > exclusive group living downtown.
> >
> > There are hundreds if not thousands of people working downtown: state
> > workers,
> > entertainment and hospitality service workers, bank clerks, title company
> and
> > law firm employees working downtown. None of these folks can afford to buy
> a
> > condo downtown. So where are these extra 10,000 people coming from.
> >
> > Aarg.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > Quoting Patrick Goetz :
> >
> > > In the spirit of the "BOA application for Endeavor" discussion, I
> > > thought this was an interesting article. Right now, largely because of
> > > the actions of short-sighted, self-centered "activists" like the HPNA
> > > and the ANC, we have the following development models in operation:
> > > McMansions, McDorms, California Condos (e.g. $300-$400/sf), and
> > > enormous, trashy 2-3 story apartment complexes with miles of surface
> > > parking, usually built in locations that are particularly hostile to
> > > bicyclists/pedestrians. Development is aimed at either the very rich
> > > (McMansions, CaliCondos), the almost destitute (apartment complexes), or
> > > students (McDorms).
> > >
> > > This is ridiculous. Where are school teachers, mechanics, and retail
> > > employees (i.e. the middle class) supposed to live? Healthy communities
> > > require a mix of housing choices in desirable (which ALWAYS means
> > > walkable/bikeable) locations. Not every new living unit needs to be
> > > either 5000sf with all marble counter tops or a depressing ready-made
> > > slum. Common sense suggests that alternatives are desperately called
> > > for. Zoning should allow for and encourage a mix of housing choices.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Making the Case for Housing Choices and Complete Communities
> > > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:14:29 -0400
> > > From: Harrison Marshall
> > > Reply-To: Harrison Marshall
> > > To:
> > >
> > > http://www.andpi.org/mtcng.pdf
> > >
> > > Making the Case for Housing Choices and Complete Communities
> > >
> > > This report will make the case that now is the time to act to lay the
> > > groundwork for complete, affordable communities in convenient locations.
> > > These are neighborhoods that, like any small town, provide a diverse
> > > range of housing types and prices, in close proximity to daily needs and
> > > that offer a gateway to economic and social opportunity.
> > >
> > > With executive housing overbuilt, builders, developers and real estate
> > > professionals have recognized a large, and substantially underserved,
> > > market for more affordable townhouses, smaller houses, condominiums and
> > > apartments.
> > >
> > > Construction and land costs have soared, and regulatory barriers-while
> > > improving somewhat-continue to hamper the construction of these places
> > > that are in such growing demand. At this late stage, simply removing the
> > > barriers is a critical first step, but it is unlikely to be enough.
> > > Public officials at the local, regional and state levels will need to
> > > act to identify appropriate locations, coordinate public investments to
> > > ensure the transportation and other infrastructure is there to support
> > > expected development and to use combinations of regulatory, tax and
> > > other incentives to get a full range of housing built.
> > >
> > > The health of the metro Atlanta economy and the productivity of its
> > > people depend on our ability to provide housing that is affordable to
> > > all, including working people who have average and below average
> > > incomes, and who are increasingly excluded from the metro Atlanta
> > > housing marketplace by rapidly increasing housing costs . . .
> > >
> > >
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